I spend a pathetic amount of time thinking of where unionism has gone wrong, how much Irish culture has been lost (or abandoned)on the Protestant side of the fence and generally how can we mend things in the grim north?
I sometimes despair that people can't (or won't) see the correlation between playing anti-Catholic tunes in a Catholic area and the general resentment that this causes:
"But it's only a song about how great things would be if there was no Pope! It's nothing personal".
Wise. The. Bap.
Or how people can't see that using a flag much loved by loyalist paramilitaries might not be the ideal fleggy representative for Northern Ireland.
I spend a fair whack of time criticising unionism and of course have been labelled a republican or a Lundy for my trouble.
Examples of my 'treachery' include:
http://amgobsmacked.blogspot.com.au/2013/05/10-things-that-unionistsprotestants-do.html
or
http://amgobsmacked.blogspot.com.au/2013/08/the-ulster-flag-banner.html
or even this rambling piece:
http://amgobsmacked.blogspot.com.au/2013/07/ulster-scot-or-simply-ulster-protestant.html
Fair enough, it's to be expected.
Lundy: AKA "yours truly" |
I assumed things would be much more clear over on planet Nationalism.
We'll soon see.
Here are a few things that I believe (only an opinion like) that nationalism (or at least a fair whack of nationalists) have missed:
The Nationalist Plan: It's cunning |
1/ That the 'plan' might be flawed:
Simply put, Northern Ireland exists despite the following factors:
a/ That Unionists are outnumbered by 4-5 million people on the island
b/ The mother ship sees NI as an expensive and very bothersome black hole that it would do better to be rid of.
c/ The unionist leadership is bereft of vision and long term pragmatism
d/ Worldwide sympathy for the Irish nationalist cause
e/ A small but significant percentage of the unionist voting base are open to the idea of a united Ireland
Now, surely this is a promising platform for anyone ready to advance the cause of reunification?
Demographics 'should' sort it out, but by golly it's taking its time.
Is there no other way that could maybe involve proselytising voters of a Protestant background (start off with a weekend in Galway maybe...?)?
Yes, yes.
It's the national flag (of the Republic) and cherished by millions of people.
However, does it enhance or hinder the cause of reunification?
Think about it carefully, think of when your typical Protestant is likely to see a tricolour.
For me, I only ever saw them when travelling through an area I didn't feel comfortable in or when the news was reporting on some one who had been blown up or shot in the head (or when I lived in Dublin...).
Pavlov's dogs would be less likely to eat if he rang the bell, displayed a tricolour and then kneecapped them.
Same for Protestants and the Tricolour.
Don't blame me, them or their 'bigotry', it's a human condition. (Well, dogs too apparently...)
3/ MOPEry
Its not factually accurate, helpful or indeed sexy.
Trying to convince people of a proud Celtic warrior history is one thing ('one of the world's finest fighting races' according to Churchill) and one that I'm 'down' with.
Celtic Warrior: "Cool" |
But then this impressive CV is pawned to pay for the label of 'Most Oppressed People Ever'.
Like a kid in a toy shop "you can't have both!".
Personally, I choose the great warrior history over 'victim' any day.
Celtic Warrior: "Cool" |
And yes, they also endured foreign monarchies, oppressive nobles and plantations/settlements.
The Tibetans, a peace loving people managed to throw off the shackles of Mongolian overlordship after a few centuries.
Keltic Kevin: "Not Cool" |
Something somewhere isn't right.
Perhaps we AREN'T great warriors after all?
Or something else....?
One of the most infuriating conversations that I can have is a particular unionist orientated palaver.
Usually it's to do with applying some sensitivity to a particular topic such as parades or even listening to the points of view of others.
Using parades as an example, I would state that there are absolutely NO drawbacks to a parade if the bands didn't play sectarian tunes, didn't play outside chapels and did away with paramilitary paraphernalia.
NOT necessarily at the outrageous suggestions but at the notion that this might please Sinn Fein and 'the Provos'.
Hmmmmm.
Apparently the views of ordinary Catholics are not actually their own views when they highlight their problems with the sectarian aspect of parades.
Instead these views are apparently parroted snippets fed by nationalist HQ.
Cos all the kafliks are the same like....
Of course this is hokum.
But Bandsman won't listen.
His view is unimpeachable.
So too apparently is the position of the GAA.
No matter how many people sincerely offer criticisms, opinions, observations or advice on how the GAA might iron out its controversial aspects and be elevated to the status of 'sports for all' there's never any acceptance that these critics (or 'helpers') may have a point between them, hence the Joe Brolly hissy fit.
Bandsmen and OO: people are telling you what you are doing wrong.
GAA and its advocates: People are telling you where you are dropping the ball (no pun intended).
5/ Not Listening II - Irish Language
This is even more sensitive as there are many people who have worked hard over the generations to keep the language alive.
Not easy when it is permanently in the cross-hairs of unionism's gutter snipers, QED in a David McCann interview with Edwin Poots:
"On his time as Minister for Culture, Arts and Leisure he (Poots) told me that his greatest achievement was ‘burying the Irish language act’ as he believes there was ‘precious little demand for outside of republican circles’... "
http://sluggerotoole.com/2013/11/27/mccann-meets-edwin-poots-mla/
It is unfair.
But it's not entirely unpredictable.
One of the main obstacles regarding the widespread acceptance of the Irish language is it's opportunistic usage by Sinn Fein.
Sorry.
You need to hear this.
(Though I am given to understand a fair whack of people resent SF sticking their oars in and using the language as some sort of republican fashion accessory).
If SF members want to work for the Irish language behind the scenes then great, the more the merrier in fact.
They can still work heroically behind the scenes for the language whilst diluting their public association with the language.
It's the public face of the Irish language that they blemish (in the eyes of many unionists and Protestants).
In the business world such a PR handicap would not be tolerated.
People say it's daft that a language can be a thing of offence but it's not unique to Ireland.
Look east and in the eastern Croatian town of Vukovar there is a similar controversy.
Vukovar was smashed up by in the wars that followed the fall of Yugoslavia.
Destruction, massacres, the works.
Now the Serbian residents wish to promote their identity and culture by means of erecting signs written in Serbian Cyrillic.
On one hand, fair enough.
They live there, have lived there for centuries so why not promote their culture?
On the other hand, it evokes painful memories to the resident Croats who were traumatised by the fall of their city and its destruction.
(I'm not taking sides either way!!!).
Many see it as a politically crafted 'get it up themuns'.
Every time republicans use Irish in their literature, marches and interviews the same view is pinned on the Irish language.
I think this is unfair but it is also how things are.
If we want Irish to belong to all Irish people then there is definitely room for a very frank discussion and examination of Irish as it is handled now.
Ignore this if you must, doesn't make it any less true.
6/ Two Flags or No Flags
This is even more sensitive as there are many people who have worked hard over the generations to keep the language alive.
Not easy when it is permanently in the cross-hairs of unionism's gutter snipers, QED in a David McCann interview with Edwin Poots:
"On his time as Minister for Culture, Arts and Leisure he (Poots) told me that his greatest achievement was ‘burying the Irish language act’ as he believes there was ‘precious little demand for outside of republican circles’... "
http://sluggerotoole.com/2013/11/27/mccann-meets-edwin-poots-mla/
It is unfair.
But it's not entirely unpredictable.
One of the main obstacles regarding the widespread acceptance of the Irish language is it's opportunistic usage by Sinn Fein.
This is why we can't have nice things... |
Sorry.
You need to hear this.
(Though I am given to understand a fair whack of people resent SF sticking their oars in and using the language as some sort of republican fashion accessory).
If SF members want to work for the Irish language behind the scenes then great, the more the merrier in fact.
They can still work heroically behind the scenes for the language whilst diluting their public association with the language.
It's the public face of the Irish language that they blemish (in the eyes of many unionists and Protestants).
In the business world such a PR handicap would not be tolerated.
People say it's daft that a language can be a thing of offence but it's not unique to Ireland.
Look east and in the eastern Croatian town of Vukovar there is a similar controversy.
Vukovar was smashed up by in the wars that followed the fall of Yugoslavia.
Destruction, massacres, the works.
Vukovar: 2 cultures |
On one hand, fair enough.
On the other hand, it evokes painful memories to the resident Croats who were traumatised by the fall of their city and its destruction.
(I'm not taking sides either way!!!).
Many see it as a politically crafted 'get it up themuns'.
I think this is unfair but it is also how things are.
If we want Irish to belong to all Irish people then there is definitely room for a very frank discussion and examination of Irish as it is handled now.
Ignore this if you must, doesn't make it any less true.
6/ Two Flags or No Flags
I agree with the designated days ruling.
I think other unionist councils should man up and do the same (like most of the rest of the UK).
What I would also like to see is consistency from nationalist politicians.
Preferably in the form of sending a negotiating team down south and demanding a similar 2 flag/no flag policy for all sports that are all Ireland based e.g. the rugby.
Yup, that's right.
Irish Rugby games with no flags or a Tricolour AND a Union Flag to represent the island and its peoples.
Sod it, lets stick to our principles and do the same with Croke and Casement Parks too?
Let's see how rigid these principles actually are....
Or we could just drop the charade and come up with a better idea.
( Just indulging now: http://amgobsmacked.blogspot.com.au/2013/11/three-flags-real-compromise.html)
Yes, I'm calling the bluff.
( Just indulging now: http://amgobsmacked.blogspot.com.au/2013/11/three-flags-real-compromise.html)
Yes, I'm calling the bluff.
(NOTE: I don't actually want to see Union Flags at Lansdowne or wot not, but I'm just trying to point out that the idea of 'equality' that is argued for by nationalist politicians might not be so easy to stomach when applied to other spheres e.g. the Irish rugby team is meant to represent everyone on the island and the GAA claims to be inclusive)
7/ Memorials and Commemorations
In Northern Ireland we have to remember 1690, Cromwell's expedition, WWI, WWII, the Easter Uprising, the Somme, the Siege and Relief of Derry, the United Irishmen, St Patrick, various memorials for volunteers, UDR men, RUC men, the Famine, the Civil War, a myriad of murders from the troubles and more besides.
Is it any wonder I can only remember half of my shopping list each time I head to the shops?!
If we really do wish for a brighter future then the past needs to be put in its place.
Behind us.
Columba: Catholic? Not if you're from the Western Isles of Scotland... |
8/ Talking About the Celtic Saints as if They Were Roman Catholic
(To be fair, this is more for Irish Catholic Nationalism, still part of the nationalist family though).
I simply assumed they were Roman Catholic too.
The truth is a great deal more tricky than that.
And not particularly palatable if you're a die hard believer that they were.
Best leave sleeping dogs lie in that case....
(Which there is BTW)
9/ Confusing Irish Nationalism for Irish Culture/'Irishness'
They're not the same thing.
For example, the Tricolour is AN Irish flag.
As are St Pat's Cross, the Ulster Fleg, the Independence Flag and the 'Erin's Harp' (even though they may have had foreign influences, just like the Tricolour)
Not 'Irish' enough? |
Accepting the Tricolour is not accepting Irishness per se, merely an aspect of Irishness.
To have problems with Irish nationalism is not (necessarily) to have problems with Irish culture.
For example, James Joyce.
He is an icon of Irish culture and disliked (aspects of) Irish nationalism to the extent that he never gave up his British passport and refused to get an Irish one.
James Joyce: A 'hater'? A traitor? Or maybe he had a point...? |
10/ Taking Criticism
This of course applies to everyone (myself included) but I have come across some belters whilst browsing through twitter conversations.
Brian John Spencer in particular seems to attract the occasional screamer.
For those of you who don't know, he is a man of a unionist background who (like an increasing number of us) is coldly critical of knuckle dragging loyalism.
He considers himself Irish and writes many articles about backwards unionism.
Yet even he can be branded an 'uber Brit' if he says anything remotely critical of nationalism
As well as this little snipe at the pair of us:
Ruaidri Ua Conchobai @****_*****
@brianjohnspencr @AmGhobsmacht You can't deny you're anti-RC & anti-Irish forever demonising both using historical material
If the Roman Catholic church sometimes gets it in the neck too well then so be it.
I'm not religious and if I think any of the churches have done anything to compound matters then I'll say so, people shouldn't be scared to criticise wrong-doing, regardless of what 'holy men' may say
I don't so much cherry-pick historical facts as pick up the ones that have been chucked away by supporters of the nationalist and unionist narratives.
Don't blame me that Edward Carson spoke Irish, that a Pope was King Billy's ally or that some priests behaved terribly during the Potato Famine, it just happened and I'm highlighting it*
This of course is nothing that one would not see in Fleggerland, a place full of anger, paranoia and one that is impermeable to reason.
I just happen to think that there are some in nationalist quarters who are equally baffling.
Life up north could be much improved if the fleggers could be calmed.
Same applies to the hysterical quarters within the ranks of nationalism.
I just happen to think that there are some in nationalist quarters who are equally baffling.
Life up north could be much improved if the fleggers could be calmed.
Same applies to the hysterical quarters within the ranks of nationalism.
Maith thu a chara. Constructive criticism well explained is a great basis for us all to understand each other a little better. All we need is the will to be considerate of each other and we're sorted. Oh...
ReplyDeleteAn excellent read, stating how I've felt for quite some time in a much better way than I ever could.
ReplyDeleteAs a republican, I appreciate your article and the issues it raises. We are all a bit myopic when it comes to our own (whatever that means) and have a tendency not to recognise different aspects of our culture, history or religion as legitimate 'if they don't fit a very narrow narrative. That said, I don't agree with everything you've written. Republicans have played a significant role in the ongoing effort to revive the Irish Language both historically and more recently. They haven't been they only people involved in this work. but their efforts have not been insignificant eitherand certainly don't warrant attempts to airbrush them out of history or to demean their contribution. To take up your theme what some people, don't or won't get, is that the language is important to republicans and specifically Sinn Fein not as a political tactic designed to aggravate Unionism and Loyalism, but is an integral part of their political identity. We want to see the language become a natural part of everyday life across the Island, for those who want It, to do that needs effort and encouragement. If the language has become identified with SF you have to ask why. Is it not the case that SF's support for and promotion of the language has exposed those who express a love of the language but who have done little to support it over the years? It maybe that if they expended as much energy on supporting the language and bit less on attacking SF for their efforts, then the language would be less 'politicized'! Anyway enjoyed the article. Hope to see more soon.
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DeleteThankyou for your comments.
It is by far one the most articulate and restrained rebuttals regarding this particular blog.
The typical response is normally a snarling dismissal of the idea that association could blacken the image of something (all the while being oblivious to the notion that one seldom sees a Celtic fan drinking McEwan's Lager, I worked in the Parkhead area on match days, it's certainly nothing to do with a more sophisticated palate than your average Rangers fan...).
I acknowledge that Republicans have put a lot of work into the survival as the language, I had hoped that would be taken as a given to prevent me from having to draw the post out even further (that's why it's so long winded, it's laden with anti-whataboutery measures).
That however doesn't puncture the idea that SF's overtly public involvement with the language (e.g. banners and literature) harms the modern objectives of the language movement (greater acceptance, more widespread use, an Irish language act etc).
It merely deflects from this assertion.
If they have done such a fine job then what's to say that this trajectory of improvement will continue indefinitely?
Could there ever come a time where SF's public (again I stress the overtly public nature of the point of contention) association with the language could plateau?
If so, what's to say that this tipping point is not here already?
We have some Protestants learning already, so they're obviously not ALL hostile to the notion and there are others who list their key objection to the language (or it's spread) specifically as SF's pubic use of the language.
If we are now at the stage where a foundation has been laid and the marriage between republicans and the language is no longer necessary for its survival then perhaps it is time to move on to the next stage?
That stage could involve SF publicly distancing themselves from the language (but privately going in knee deep if they should desire) and allow others to come to the fore.
As a point of interest, even the Protestant Coalition flirted with the idea of 'taking the language back!!!' and put up a video of Hebridean Free Presbyterians singing in Gaelic.
(I think they've dropped this notion though) but it goes to show that there is potential for further inroads into the unionist community should certain obstacles be removed.
I know my point is not popular, but the fact that republicans cared for Gaelige whilst she was on life support doesn't mean that they have exclusive rights over her now that some of the neglectful relatives have returned.
I'm not cherry picking your post (as it is excellent) but this part in particular is calling for attention:
"We want to see the language become a natural part of everyday life across the Island, for those who want It, to do that needs effort and encouragement."
Absolutely, I agree, however, how do you measure encouragement and conversely how do you measure discouragement?
For the bottom line is SF's public association with the language is a MASSIVE discouragement to many.
This is a topic that must be addressed if we are to realise our dreams of seeing Gaelic restored and without controversy.
There's no reason why we can't benefit from behind-the-scenes-work from SF whilst finally giving the language some controversy-free breathing space that is badly needed at present.
My only fear (which no one on this blog or SO'T has addressed) is that it might be too late, perhaps the damage is done?
Who knows?
AG
I don't know about confusing celtic saints as Roman Catholic but when I see people say St Patrick was a protestant and founded protestant churches makes me snort in my milk.
ReplyDeleteThe Irish church built a cult around him to unite the warring factions in contemporaneous Ireland.
Why any side try and claim him is not reading history properly.
Some more encouraging steps from the unionist side of the fence?
ReplyDeletehttp://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/politics/unionist-party-ni21-goes-gaelic-in-hunt-for-euro-election-voters-30202580.html
An educational piece, and well put. Also, good use of Pavlov's classical conditioning.
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